Comments on: Further unsolicited advice that will probably be removed shortly. http://www.caitlinjane.com/2011/01/30/further-unsolicited-advice-that-will-probably-be-removed-shortly/ Thu, 16 Jan 2014 17:39:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.6 By: Caitin Jane – file in the family folder | Castlehome Institute http://www.caitlinjane.com/2011/01/30/further-unsolicited-advice-that-will-probably-be-removed-shortly/comment-page-1/#comment-95887 Caitin Jane – file in the family folder | Castlehome Institute Sat, 19 Nov 2011 03:38:39 +0000 http://www.caitlinjane.com/?p=1874#comment-95887 [...] 05/02/2011 at 12:52 am [...]

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By: Richard Larratt http://www.caitlinjane.com/2011/01/30/further-unsolicited-advice-that-will-probably-be-removed-shortly/comment-page-1/#comment-71094 Richard Larratt Sun, 06 Feb 2011 04:57:42 +0000 http://www.caitlinjane.com/?p=1874#comment-71094 “Forget about it!”

Yes you do have my loving support.
You always have had and you always will.

The three categories in the people category of my people, places, ….., address book are family, fiends, friends.

In the great scheme of things there are a bunch of us in the same small karass = and family, fiend or friend we’re stuck with each other. Do you have any idea how crowded it can get some days on the boat. I’ve been emailling back and forth with the first big lady love of my life. She’s 32 years older than you (70) and just back from two weeks in Barbados – calls herself vicky when she posts on my site – she’s at least as nutso as you are about quilting – so here we are right now as I type – three on the boat in the sense the two of you plus me. So ….

“Forget about it!”
While you and I love Shannon maybe it’s a net benefit there only be a few. Here goes why = when I was first dating kv she volunteered that she was quite concerned that I was not taller. Back then I was 6′ 1″ but back then kv was near 6′ (a bit taller then than her brother Tom). She told me she wished I was taller and said that she would not date or ever marry someone less than 5’11″.

She knew I was a genius insofar as I had got the job in Toronto by scoring higher in a week of testing by S&K (later merged with Arthur Anderson) than the other applicants(147: but there were lots of other tests). Today I see it all as nutso – but if you remember us – back then -that was the kool-aid we were drinking.

I know Shannon’s long term memory is shot to hell but I see no evidence there is any problem with your recall except that THIS might have been so boring you didn’t bother to notice – but we were all pretty crazed so likely you did – do recall – I am referring to those sessions when Vati and I would go on and on about global warming etc etc.

And so it was – back on Big Island I’d have one of my “Hemingway” moments – like tearing the door off the truck – Shannon will remember that – and kv would run to Waterloof asking permission to leave me. Vati would send her back. Shades of “The prisoner”.

It was only a few years ago that I realized I was the Anvil to Vati’s Hammer. Mutti’s 1st choice for a husband was her 2nd cousin Otto (do you remember Bettina). Otto was one of the few to survive three years as a serving officer on a U-Boat. Everything you saw in the movie he lived and survived. Vati had refused to take in Bettina (you can’t blame him given the history if you freak over recipe infractions). After the war Otto had issues Vati didn’t. Otto lives in harms way. Vati doesn’t. Mutti chose the lucky boat but the man she loved was the 6’3″ sailor not the pacific would not harm a fly guy. I loved them all. Still do. Otto returned my favour regards Bettina by looking after Sara when she was a model in Europe. I think this should be enough to help you feel way better about yourself. “It’s all good.”

Me – if you can remember – I got exactly what I deserved. Remember me calling Mutti a Mischling. Probably not but you must be able to well REMEMBER. And oh yeah -
5’11″ was the minimum height for admission to the Waffen SS. Like the child of a divorce I only understood this stuff years later. By the time you met “us” = Vati and I were fond of each other = but that does not change the fact that I’m an Otto not a Vati. Remember I was RCN. I gronked with Otto in an instant (we went to the Auto Races across the Bay and he flew back to Germany). He trusted me with Bettina as later I did him with Sara.

If you understand what I have written you’ll feel way better about yourself and if you don’t that’s okay too.
Either way ….

“Forget about it!”

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By: Caitlin Jane http://www.caitlinjane.com/2011/01/30/further-unsolicited-advice-that-will-probably-be-removed-shortly/comment-page-1/#comment-71088 Caitlin Jane Sat, 05 Feb 2011 22:49:34 +0000 http://www.caitlinjane.com/?p=1874#comment-71088 Thank you Richard. Your loving support is very welcome. And sorry about not making mini Shannons. Ari will have to do!

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By: Richard Larratt http://www.caitlinjane.com/2011/01/30/further-unsolicited-advice-that-will-probably-be-removed-shortly/comment-page-1/#comment-71078 Richard Larratt Sat, 05 Feb 2011 05:52:45 +0000 http://www.caitlinjane.com/?p=1874#comment-71078 Hello Caitin Jane

I have never forgotten the 1st time we met albeit a long time ago.

You nested up in the jungle jim bars – made a great a postive impression on me I will never forget and enjoy – I just did – that was a long time ago – lots of images flash by – some at Castlehom and a bunch are you at Waterloof – funny how I remember you so near now as you appear then – as Shannon (above) you’ve been near to ageless – the deeper Dorian Gray Existential BS notwithstanding – but wasn’t this OVERKILL – here I note near eof you wrote

“I just felt like justifying what could probably be seen as petty behavior on my behalf about having my recipe used with no credit.”

IMHO if there is a next time better to say
“You stole my recipe bitch.”

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By: Steph http://www.caitlinjane.com/2011/01/30/further-unsolicited-advice-that-will-probably-be-removed-shortly/comment-page-1/#comment-71073 Steph Sat, 05 Feb 2011 02:16:51 +0000 http://www.caitlinjane.com/?p=1874#comment-71073 Awe honey! I too like the others, can be empathetic to your pain. I work in a daycare and the day I lost the baby I didn’t even *know* that I had, let alone wanted was like being stabbed in the back and the heart. Because it happened at work :(

Not that I am trying to one up you, but yes it DOES hurt. No matter where you are, how it happened. On. So. Many. Levels. I wish I had said something more to the other person involved, or anyone really and for some reason I never did until several months after the fact(we had a falling out). The most beautiful think I ever heard come from that mans lips: “I wish you would have told me sooner, I would have cried with you, had you let me be there.”

Your raw honesty isn’t lost on me, I hope that it helps you to heal, even if it’s just a little bit <3

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By: Caitlin Jane http://www.caitlinjane.com/2011/01/30/further-unsolicited-advice-that-will-probably-be-removed-shortly/comment-page-1/#comment-71019 Caitlin Jane Wed, 02 Feb 2011 03:12:28 +0000 http://www.caitlinjane.com/?p=1874#comment-71019 And lest you think that my life is all joy and peaches and cream, here is a shortlist of the misery that I chose not to focus on: baby issues, losing my best friend, Shannon is sick and dying and when he does I lose him AND Ari, step parenting is way harder than you’d ever think, the BME legal business was indescribably unpleasant and will be revealed eventually…what else? My sister lives on the opposite side of the country, Toronto is expensive and noisy and our apartment sucks in almost every way. Sometimes I get heartburn, and I have grey hair and zits. And my period seems to get heavier and crampier as I age.

But who’s complaining? ;)

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By: Caitlin Jane http://www.caitlinjane.com/2011/01/30/further-unsolicited-advice-that-will-probably-be-removed-shortly/comment-page-1/#comment-71017 Caitlin Jane Wed, 02 Feb 2011 02:55:43 +0000 http://www.caitlinjane.com/?p=1874#comment-71017 Well, Rach, she was there back in 2001, when Shannon and I split up and it wasn’t pretty. She was supportive and was very much on my team. I’m sure you can remember all the ugliness that happened. And when Shannon and I reconnected it took me a long time, a really LONG time with lots of consideration and debate and I was torn a lot and had a very hard time making it all straight in my head. I do kind of feel like if I can forgive him, everyone else should too, but it doesn’t work that way, not with best friends and exes. I’m able to be friends with almost all my exes because I can remember the good times and try to focus on that, not the misery. It’s not always easy but it is rewarding, ridding yourself of negativity. I think for the best friend, I don’t know. I know she was like, well, I’m not going through that with you and him again and I KNOW IT WILL HAPPEN! That made our relationship hard, I wanted her to be my maid of honor at our wedding, but how could I when I knew she was so disapproving of our relationship?

I’m getting older too, that makes moving on easier and more important. And I took a lesson from my mother when her and my dad split up-she worked her ass off to remain friends with him, she knew it would be best, not just for the immediate family, but for…everything. For forever. You know?

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By: Rach http://www.caitlinjane.com/2011/01/30/further-unsolicited-advice-that-will-probably-be-removed-shortly/comment-page-1/#comment-71016 Rach Wed, 02 Feb 2011 02:21:40 +0000 http://www.caitlinjane.com/?p=1874#comment-71016 I know I don’t comment on your blog with what could be called steady regularity, so that will probably add an extra creep factor to the fact that more than once I’ve sighed to my boyfriend that I wish we lived near you because I think he would like you (and Shannon especially, who is constantly blogging about the same things my boyfriend is verbally blogging about at home). You and Shannon seem to stretch so much more out of life than basically anyone else I know. Your blogs are almost always full of joy and it’s hard to tell most of the time that bad things happen to you, too.

It’s easy for someone on the outside of a relationship to make judgment about it. I’ve only had this one serious relationship and before I was in it, I was super judgmental about other people’s significant others. If I thought a guy was slimy I had no problem pointing it out. It took me a long time to learn that there is no possible way to get an accurate picture of someone else’s relationship. No matter what has happened throughout the course of it, no matter what someone has said about someone else, you never have all the information and you’re almost certain to get a distorted picture of badness because that’s what people talk about.

I don’t think everyone quite has a grasp on this fact and instead views other people’s partners in this weird, cartoonishly evil way, like, “Oh, he never does the dishes? He treats you like dirt!” The only thing that’s strange to me about your judgmental friend is that she is a mother and therefore old enough and experienced enough to have a grasp on the reality of relationships. I understand that when people do this sort of thing it’s out of a strange defensive loyalty to a friend, but ultimately I think it’s better to assume that your friend knows what she’s doing as far as who she chooses to be with.

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By: Mumma http://www.caitlinjane.com/2011/01/30/further-unsolicited-advice-that-will-probably-be-removed-shortly/comment-page-1/#comment-71000 Mumma Tue, 01 Feb 2011 13:47:15 +0000 http://www.caitlinjane.com/?p=1874#comment-71000 I love you so much. Thank you for writing this. xoxoxo

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By: Caitlin Jane http://www.caitlinjane.com/2011/01/30/further-unsolicited-advice-that-will-probably-be-removed-shortly/comment-page-1/#comment-70990 Caitlin Jane Tue, 01 Feb 2011 00:48:53 +0000 http://www.caitlinjane.com/?p=1874#comment-70990 I think I went through about 24 hours of misery before I was able to be very clear on my needs with Shannon. He felt terrible and did everything he could to comfort me after that. It was the friend, she was angry with him for that (and for a million other things, yes) but at that point hearing what a terrible person he was wasn’t helpful any more.

I wish I’d handled things differently, of course. But being forced to chose between her and him? That’s so unfair, for everyone.

And I don’t know if it was the death of a real baby. It felt more like the death of an entire future. Like you say, it’s different for everyone. I did have a very nice nurse at the hospital that was very kind and listened and let me cry and cry and hog all her time. Josie, I know you don’t read this, but thanks, a million times thanks.

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